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7/26/2010
By Albert SHANG Zhenbo
Today I want to share some experience about the globalization and HRM support. Those experiences are from the company where I had worked for 5 years. This company is a Chinese private company and already established about 25 factories outside China.
This company started its globalization from 2000, and they experienced two stages. The first stage was the first 5 years. Every employee in China was very excited to work overseas. Second stage is in the following years: Seldom did employees want to go overseas. Why is it the case?
- Most of the its factories are in the third countries, where the security, language, and other aspect are very different from China.
- The salary is not good. But in the first stage, because very rarely employees had been abroad, the employees are willing to work overseas without much salary. But now they are bored with the overseas working experience and these feelings have spread into the factories. So it very difficult to find someone to work overseas now.
- The overseas worker usually cannot work for a long time in that country. They are willing to come back to China, but there is no such a position for them after they return home.
Because this company produces industrial goods, their issues are not are not so much limited in other aspect. Now their biggest problem is Human Resources practices. I give some advices to this company:
- They should make a great updated to their HR management practices. Not only train Chinese workers but also train the local worker.
- They should localize* their overseas factories as deeply as possible. By this way, they only need one or two Chinese to handle the factory. And other people can be from local country.
- They should increase the salary for the Chinese employees who work overseas.
- They should prepare well for those who want to back to China. If this problem can be solved well, I believe most employee would again have an interest in overseas work.
I believe the Globalization is the future for every company, so we need experienced HR to look for the qualified General Manager and employees and develop policies that work.
*Editor’s Comment: In China, “localize” means replacing a foreign employee in a job with a national employee, not putting the foreigner on a local compensation package.
About the author
Albert SHANG Zhenbo is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, ChinaBeforejoining this MBA program, he worked overseas establishing factories for his company. He has worked in Kenya, South Africa, and Brazil. 7/19/2010
By Ivy QIAN Sun
For a foreigner who wants to build relationships in China, the most important factor is to being open to the new environment.
I have some foreign friends who have lived in China for several years. Some of them still couldn’t speak Chinese. They may not get used to Chinese soup. They all hate the bad habits – like spitting – of some Chinese. (Me, too). However, all of these didn’t prevent them from enjoying their lives in China. They made a lot of Chinese friends who love to have fun with them in their spare time and provide support for them at any time.
There is also other group of people in the city, whose socialization circle is limited to other foreign people in China only. They always go to the pubs or restaurants which are also run by foreign people because they can have the typical home country drinking or meals there. They never contact with local people except working. They are trying their best to make themselves living as the same in the home country. As a result they are “foreign people” in China forever because they refuse to integrate into the local life.
Like my country fellows, I admire those foreign people who live in China because it needs great courage to face such a huge challenge. I can understand how difficult it is to live and work in an unfamiliar country: Language barrier, cultural difference, food unaccustomedness, and loneliness. So I’d like to provide support to them no matter for business or personal life. I am willing to help them know more about China, Chinese culture and local life. As a result they can easier to get used of the new environment. Once they can integrate into the local life, they are indeed “at home” and they can find much more fun in China. But to those who always huddle up in their original world, they are polite colleagues, partners, clients or anything else instead of friends. They are giving a signal of “Leave me alone. I feel more comfortable to keeping on my original way of life.”
About the author Ivy QIAN Sun is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China. 7/12/2010
By Yvonne TAO Yi
If a Chinese graduate received offers both from multinational companies and government departments, guess which one would he/she would prefer?
Eighty percent of graduates would prefer to be civil servants, I bet.
When I worked in a career development center of a university from 2006-2009, I found an interesting ranking of different employers for graduates. To work in Government offices was the first choice, while state-run corporations and institutions were following them, and the multinational corporations fell to the third.
Why do Government offices and state-run corporations become overwhelmingly popular? It was the stability according to most graduates. Stability means low risk to be fired. It’s important because of the high unemployment and economic crisis. There will be about 6.3 million graduates this year, and the number was 6.1 million last year; however, the jobs don’t increase accordingly to meet the demands. It’s really hard and becoming harder every year for graduates to hunt for a job. Moreover, government offices and state-run corporations rarely lay off employees, while most multinational companies are downsizing in the crisis. Lay-off and high turnover drive graduates away.
Now it comes to another question, why does stability become more important than any other factors like payments and career development? It was the One Child Policy in China. To control the population, China carried out One Child Policy from 1980, and the graduates are exactly born at that time. They grew up in love and care of their parents or even grandparents. Families’ wills affect their decisions, and the safety and stability are the most important factors parents care about. Females are more likely to be affected and prefer stable jobs.
About the author Yvonne TAO Yi is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China. She badly loves Agatha Christie’s detective novels and dreams to live in the mountains with valleys. 7/6/2010
By Cindy XIAO Cui
In my opinion, the localization* of management and the implementation of company policies are the main managerial problems to which managers should pay more attention. They are also the hardest things to solve for managers. The cross-cultural differences exist in every corner of the managerial world as long as the business relate to different countries. I will unveil some of them by a real case. If a foreign company intends to develop well in China, I would suggest them to make a good balance in these.
The case comes from the company where I worked before. The company is a German one. It was set up in 2002 in Guangzhou and developed across China since 2005. I regard it as a developing company.
In the beginning three years, the real decision maker of Guangzhou office is a Chinese manager, although he has a nominal line manager based in Hong Kong office. The Chinese manager’s performance is very good and the business segment of China market grows very fast in this period. Consequently, the German headquarter set up head office of China in Shanghai. More and more levels are set up and more and more foreign managers are dispatched to China. Actually, some of them had never been to China before they are in charge of China business.
They began to strictly implement the company’s policies which have been well practiced in the German company. Conflicts therefore came up. Sales staff complained about difficulties in business development; other employees complained about the policies’ rigidity; customers complained about problems of quality standard; suppliers complained about difficulties in cooperation. However, it is also a very hard time for those foreign mangers because they cannot understand why the implementation of company policies is so hard.
In this case, I think, firstly managers’ localization* is a very important approach to moderate the problems. On one hand, Chinese know well about Chinese, both issues and people. If the company’s concern is that local managers know little about company culture and policies, I think a series of training will be much helpful. The “Kong Jiang Bing” (foreigners who were sent in) brought local employees, especially those who contributed very much in the beginning three years, psychological resistance. If the “Kong Jiang Bing” cannot deal this relationship in a proper way, things will get harder.
Secondly, the newcomers don’t have a good communication with local managers before they begin to implement policies. Everything is getting more and more difficult without understanding each side. The effective communication would be of great help for those managers.
In general, managers’ localization* will become more and more important for any foreign company’s success in China. I hope my personal experience could be a reminder for those companies.
*Editor’s Comment: In China, “localization” means replacing a foreign employee in a job with a national employee, not putting the foreigner on a local compensation package.
About the author Cindy XIAO Cui is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China. 6/28/2010
By Dick ZHENG Di
“Guanxi” is a very frequently used word in China and is a central idea in Chinese society. You may translate it into “networking” or “connections” or “relationships,” but in China, it means a lot more than those words. Any foreign company which wants to come to China needs to face guanxi seriously. If the company can handle guanxi well, then it will survive; if not, I can say that there is no future for this company in China.
As a country with more than 5000 years’ history, the Chinese culture is more complicated than any other western countries in the world. That’s why guanxi is so important in China. Understanding the exact meaning of guanxi is the first lesson for HR management in China for foreign companies.
Guanxi first expresses a concept of "ganqing,” a measure which reflects the depth of feeling within an interpersonal relationship. Then is “renqing,” the moral obligation to maintain the relationship, and also the idea of "face," meaning social status, propriety, prestige, or more realistically a combination of all three.
It is reported that most of the private company owners in China admitted that among all the factors for their success, guanxi is the most important. The guanxi with government official is taken as the first place, and with bank clerk is the second.
Western countries have a perfected system for doing business, but in China, half of the system is surrounding with guanxi. No matter how much capital you have, how high rank you are in the industry, if you have friends or friends’ friends in the fields that you need help, and you are with good guanxi with them, the thing will be half done.
It is difficult for a foreign company to understand the culture of guanxi exactly. However, it’s a process that they can never skip. Trying to learn more about Chinese culture and experiencing more of the real life in China will be a good way to get a full understanding of it.
About the author Dick ZHENG Di is an international MBA student at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China. 6/21/2010 By Jean ZOU Lingjing
I spent two years working for a top multinational company in its industry from U.S. and I have to say I was stunned that the culture was so results-oriented. “Win culture” as the company described it drove the business in China to grow at an incredible speed.
But most of my colleagues didn't enjoy the work there. Because of the overly-intensive daily reviews, numerous sales contests, and nonstopping overtime work, I always remember people's faces there were filled with stress and anxiety day-in-and-day-out. Even though the company as a whole made a lot achievements in China, the turnover rate was incredibly high and whenever people got a chance to work for competitors, they would never hesitate to leave.
This may be an unusual case about how a foreign company runs its business in China or maybe the market was intensely competitive. However, I think Chinese people, or people in other nations, all look forward to a more friendly organization. We are all looking for the senses of belonging in the work place and tend to be more emotionally attached to the company. People found it quite brutal to kick away their employees because of their temporary low performance or the need to cut headcount.
Even though most foreign companies locate their offices in Chinese coastal cities where people are getting use to western business world, people still find it hard to be loyal to their employer if the company just evaluates its employee's value based on the most current needs.
In the company I mentioned above, there used to be some kick-off events which were scheduled at the end of every financial quarter so that hard working employees can have one nice dinner together and those who topped the performance would be rewarded. It was the most enjoyable occasion during that period of working time.
Most foreign companies in China do quite well in building bonds with employees. It would be better to evaluate employees’ value in a more integrated way to balance his/her achievements and drawbacks.
About the author Jean ZOU Jingling is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China. 6/14/2010
Has my opinion about working for a foreign multinational or foreign-invested enterprise changed in the last several years?
Yes. I worked for three foreign multinationals for five years before I joined the MBA program. However, I will very probably not choose foreign multinationals anymore after graduation.
I know that for so many people, foreign companies, especially big multinationals are their dream companies. They think the foreign multinationals will have better salary, sound training system and well-organized promotion mechanism and so on. Yes they do. I do agree that foreign multinationals look more tempting for relatively high pay and sound working environment. Actually several years ago, I was one of the people who are eagerly pursuing a position in foreign multinationals. But I changed my mind as time passed.
First of all, all foreign multinationals have the so-called ceiling effect no matter how good they are doing in the localization. (Editor’s note: In this context, “localization” means hiring Chinese nationals to replace foreigners). There are invisible rules to stop a Chinese from becoming top management. Yes, you work hard enough, you are senior enough and you think you have no competitors, but sorry, you just could not get promoted. Why? Because you are not a foreigner, you are a yellow skin Chinese.
More and more foreign multinationals announced proudly how many Chinese they recruit and that they have a rising percentage of Chinese employees for the entire company population. But, the most significant reason for localization is to cut cost as expatriates are much more expensive; then with the development of China, more and more talents with enough education background and necessary skills especially English skills, foreign multinationals can find enough qualified people in local market. And one last thing you may notice is that seldom local people get promoted to management even though there is an increasing percentage of local employees. The foreigners may have gone but they were replaced by those from Hong Kong, Taiwan or East Asia. Local Chinese just cannot gain the same trust.
Someone may argue that foreign multinationals are much fairer, treating employee more equally and less political-sensitive. Maybe that is the so-called halo effect that blinds your eyes. In fact, political struggle is a cross-border issue and lies everywhere.
In foreign multinationals, as a Chinese, it will be hard for you to have the sense of ownership or safety even you successfully climb to a management position. Once the situation changes, you may be lay off anytime. Just ask the GM of Microsoft China, who is replaced almost once a year.
Actually, what I am saying here just want to remind you that foreign multinationals are not as good as they look. You should see through their halos on their head and think carefully before you join.
About the author Matthew ZENG Guoquan is a fulltime student in the international MBA program at Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, in Guangzhou, China.
6/7/2010
By Kevin LI Zhiming
Lingnan (University) College, Sun Yat-sen University, one of the top ten universities governed by the Ministry of Education of People’s Republic of China (MOE). While the university has very good reputation and a history for more than 85 years, the college itself has been lasted even longer: We just celebrated our 120-year anniversary in 2009.
I have been working in this field for nearly seven years and now I am an admissions officer. Our MBA programs, especially international MBA programs, are marching for the oversea markets and we noticed that more and more foreign schools are coming or planning to come to China. I would like to share my point of view about international MBA education in China.
MBA education is a relatively new thing to Chinese people. The earliest MBA program was introduced to China only in 1991 and until 1998, only 28 universities were authorized by MOE to give MBA courses. Lingnan was one of the very few schools which can offered full English international MBA programs. In the last 12 years, MBA education in China had been expanding at rocket speed. Now nearly 200 universities have their own MBA programs and more than 30 schools have international MBA programs.
Why an international MBA? A country with 5000+ year history and 1.2 billion populations is becoming the largest market and playing an important role in globalization. The country needs to know the world and the world needs to the country. Young people in China who are in their 20s or 30s with adequate English language skill have a better understanding about the outside world compared to their parents. They are long for success and being a professional manager after MBA study is definitely one of the best ways – and being able to compete in global level would only be even better. International MBA brings them successful experiences under dynamic world and a diverse student group gives them the chance to get along with people from different cultures.
Today we have more overseas students involved in our international MBA programs. Young people around the world come to this land not only to learn the management know ledges, but also to learn the business environment and understand the Chinese culture. International MBA removes the language barrier and offers them a platform to develop their understanding about the Chinese society in high context culture.
From our statistics report, the number of international MBA applicants has kept increasing at a pace of average 20% for last 3 years. I see international MBA will be a stronger force in this market. What about you?
About the author In addition to working in the MBA program office, Kevin LI Zhiming is a fulltime student in the international MBA program there.
6/1/2010
A while back, a relocation industry colleague and I were chatting and he observed that doing business in China seemed to be getting more difficult, that penetrating the market was increasingly complex and that there seemed to be more news in the papers about difficulties western companies were having doing business here. A few weeks ago, a colleague in a different industry who’s lived in Asia for going on 20 years despaired of his several years’ efforts to build his business, citing regulatory blockages.
Last evening, a visiting American friend and I were eating at a local restaurant and one of the waiters, upon learning my friend had only been in China for 36 hours, gave a great welcome speech but also compared some of the issues extant in government-to-government relations with people-to-people relationships. The issue in all three cases revolved around how business people from these different cultures work together… and whether they really want to.
The last year has seen trade disputes, Google’s departure, conviction of foreign executives on bribery charges, currency disputes and discussion of whether there’s favoritism shown to the Chinese export industry among other issues. So it’s a fair question.
A few observations: We’re seeing China shift a bit from being purely the recipient of foreign direct investment to playing a larger role in the world economy and focusing more on design and innovation and less on low-value manufacturing. China has invested substantial sums in and made some efforts to reform and modernize its education system, employment laws, and financial systems. And there’s even some movement toward a first-ever immigration law.
There have been changes for business people. We’ve spent some time talking about the new Labor Contract Law. Expatriates went through a period when obtaining business visas was challenging. China issues rules without notice that affect issues of major importance to foreign companies. And major Chinese companies (Huawei, ZTE, Lenovo, and Haier, among others) have started to expand outside China’s borders and will eventually become more commonly recognized in the world marketplace.
So has there been change in China’s attitude toward foreigners? Yes and no depending on your perspective. Or is this a tempest in a teapot because short-term profits are affected as the country grows and develops? On a person-to-person level foreigners, while certainly less a novelty than before, are still the beneficiaries of wonderful hospitality. The question really should not be whether the attitude has changed or whether we (or they) are “liked.” Changes in society here are too dynamic for something quite that simple.
To me, it all boils down to this: At the same time China is having to ‘up its game’ if it expects to make progress in the international business sphere, foreign companies and managers are also having to ‘up their game,’ whether that means being aware of new laws, figuring out how to build the relationships to appropriately influence regulators, or how to build strong employee relationships. More than ever, managers need to move beyond being technical specialists and toward comprehensively understanding behavior, motivation, and the relationships that make everything here work.
Worldwide ERC® President Mike Washburn made an excellent observation at the February Board of Directors meeting to the effect that companies are often confronted with windows of opportunity that open, shut, and shift, and that having the organizational capability to recognize and utilize those windows is key to an organization’s success. The window with respect to China has definitely shifted over the years, but those who are fleet of foot, have a tough spirit and the resources to persist, can adapt to constant change, and are capable and willing to ‘up’ their management competencies will likely still be able to make it … even amidst the jaw-dropping downturns and obstacles which can appear out of nowhere.
An aside: Summer is here with a vengeance and so I’m going to take some time off. In my stead will be some essays from some of my graduate students which I’m sure will provide some interesting thoughts and perspectives. See you in the fall! 5/24/2010
So just where does this put us and what does this mean for foreign companies and their Human Resources professionals working in China?
A disclosure: When I first came to China in 1995, my then-employer was quite conscientious about legal compliance processes, particularly regarding HR matters. The company wanted more business in China and earning a reputation that we were anything other than a preferred employer would not have been well-received back at headquarters. And so I became well-acquainted with the labor law then in effect. (Having a ‘new’ labor law does imply there was an ‘old’ labor law!)
The ‘old’ labor law also required written contracts, overtime payments, notification to or working with the local labor bureau or labor union when certain employment actions such as major layoffs or shift work issues were involved, provisions for court proceedings or arbitration regarding labor contract disputes, and labor unions. There certainly are differences between the two laws that shouldn’t be minimized. The new law and regulations are far clearer on penalties for noncompliance where the old law was primarily aspirational. The new law is certainly more detailed than the old law. (To the lawyers in our midst: You are correct; the new law certainly has many areas of ambiguity. As do most laws. Which is why there are lawyers to argue about them.) And the new law is stronger on labor union issues than the old law.
But for a company that wasn’t focused on the penalties but was focused on creating an image as a preferred employer, in fact, we jumped through many of the same hoops then that some companies are only discovering now after the new law. So I’m always a bit flummoxed when hearing complaints about the new labor law.
(Quick digression: One of my fondest memories was my first negotiation session years ago with the local labor bureau head. We needed to get permission to alter some shift work schedules and had been told by his department that what we were trying to do was illegal. The session lasted about 60 seconds. His staff had already briefed him and so he wanted me to explain our goal. I did. He turned to his staff, waved his hand and said “I understand his point. It’s correct. Do it.” Then he got up, walked out, and left the rest of us sitting there with mouths agape. Session finished. Turned out the director had done a stint abroad for the foreign ministry, understood the international context in which I was talking, recognized that although new to China, the mechanism benefitted both the company and the workers, and ka-boom. Fin.)
So where does this leave us? Well, I think it gets back to some of those same themes we’ve talked about before. Companies doing business in China are going to have to emphasize human resources and employee issues far more in the future than they’ve done in the past, not just from a tactical, legal compliance perspective but from a broader strategic context involving company branding, motivation, and understanding how culture affects employee perceptions and behaviors. Every manager, even the technical operational types, needs to view him/herself as a human resources manager.
A foreign company I’ve worked with here just had a legal imbroglio with an employee who was fired for theft of company secrets. Despite all the warnings suggesting the legal deck is stacked against foreign employers, the company won. Of course, they’d done their homework. Management matters.
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